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What doctors really think about women who are ‘Medical Googlers’


The following is a guest post by Carolyn Thomas, a heart attack survivor and e-patient who excellent blogs talks about her experiences and lessons learned at Heart Sisters.
 
Me: “My name is Carolyn, and I’m a Medical Googler.”

You, all together now: “Hello Carolyn!”

This will come as no surprise to any of you regular readers, but I’m just a wee bit obsessed about All Things Cardiac. From the minute I was sent home from hospital last May following my heart attack, I started mainlining Google like it was a drug, and I became hooked. I threw myself into researching women’s heart disease in a determined attempt to figure out what the heck had just hit me. And after I had the opportunity to spend five days at Mayo Clinic in October, I became truly insufferable.

That’s how I happened to learn about the WomenHeart Science & Leadership Symposium for Women with Heart Disease at Mayo Clinic last fall:   I found it on Google.  That’s how I found hundreds of other Heart Sisters – all survivors like me – on the National Coalition for Women With Heart Disease WomenHeart online support community. I found them on Google. And that’s how I began subscribing to regular cardiology news bulletins from medical journals, clinical research sites, and university heart institutes.  I found them all on Google.

And that is also how I came to inform my cardiologist last month during my regular follow-up visit that doctors should no longer be prescribing the drugs Plavix and Wellbutrin together anymore, because, yes, I’d found the FDA Drug Alert on Google. But he told me that he had not yet heard about this Drug Alert – one full week after the warning had been issued.

I am, apparently, a doctor’s worse nightmare now.

Dr. Stuart Foxman of the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario implied as much in his blog for physicians called DocTalk. He wrote about the growing phenomenon of patients who are now self-educated Medical Googlers.  One study found that many physicians rate the know-it-all Googler as somewhere between “frustrating” and “irritating”.

The study noted a number of doctors’ concerns.  Some patients used the information gleaned on their own for self-diagnosis or self-treatment. Some doctors believed that the information caused the patient unnecessary confusion and distress. “All of these seem like legitimate concerns on the part of physicians,” explains Dr. Foxman.

But he notes that the doctors surveyed in this study expressed other concerns, too.

“The highly curious and informed patients were sometimes perceived as ‘challenging’ with a tendency to test the knowledge of physicians. Some doctors felt that these patients were overly assertive, undermined their authority, and did not show sufficient trust in their health care provider.”

Dr. Scott Haig‘s Time magazine essay called ‘When The Patient Is A Googler’ is a scathingly arrogant attack, describing his Googling patients as “suspicious and distrustful, their pressured sentences bursting with misused, mispronounced words and half-baked ideas.”

Just a tad oversensitive to having his authority undermined, perhaps?

Dr. Haig writes:

“Some patients don’t want to know what’s wrong with them, what medicines they’re taking, or even what kind of operation you’re planning to do on them. ‘Just get me better, Doc,’ is all they say.”

Now there’s a nice, compliant, well-behaved kind of patient who would never even dream of undermining Dr. Haig’s authority by trying to learn about their medical condition and then coming up with all those half-baked ideas.

Attention Dr. Haig, and others of your ilk: if enough women continue to have their symptoms dismissed or minimized or  - worse! – misdiagnosed (as I did when the ER doc told me I was just having acid reflux instead of a heart attack), then you can expect more and more of your patients to start doing their own Googling research in an effort to educate themselves as much as possible about what is happening to their own bodies.

The clear reality is that the volume of medical, health and wellness material that is readily available out there, and the number of people who regularly access it, are both increasing, whether Dr. Haig likes it or not.

The website WebMD alone gets over 40 million visits every month. Up to 80% of internet users have sought medical information online.  And a reported two-thirds of patients apparently want their doctors to recommend reliable website resources for them.

Dr. Foxman adds that there are, of course, ‘cyberchondriacs’ who believe that whatever condition they’ve read about on the internet must be the horrible ailment they have. And the amount of sheer unadulterated trash online is mind-boggling.  That’s why Dr. Foxman recommends reputable patient resource sites like the Public Health Agency of Canada.

Medical Googling is not only for those patients who want to sincerely learn and ask questions about their own health, but online searches can also be a diagnostic tool for physicians. Australian researchers reported in the British Medical Journal on their study that chose 3-5 search terms for hard-to-diagnose illnesses, and then looked at how Google did compared with reports published in the New England Journal of Medicine. The study found that doctors who use Google to help diagnose difficult cases can find a correct diagnosis over 60% of the time.

I now wish that the ER doc who sent me home in mid-heart attack with an acid reflux misdiagnosis had instead tried Googling my symptoms (crushing chest pain, nausea, sweating and pain radiating down my left arm).  I’m now fairly confident that Google would have steered him to the correct diagnosis of myocardial infarction!

The British Medical Journal also notes that doctors have been estimated to carry an astonishing two million facts in their heads to help them diagnose illness – but Google gives them quick access to more than three billion medical articles.

Who can keep up with three billion medical articles?

I like to think that I was really just helping out my wonderful cardiologist by passing on to him what I’d Googled about that FDA Drug Alert.

How Good Are Your Doctor’s Diagnostic Skills? A Simple Test.

We have all been there.   It often starts with some kind of recurring pain or dull ache.  We don’t know what’s causing the pain or ache.  During the light of day we tell ourselves that it is nothing.  But at 3:00am when the pain wakes you… worry sets in – maybe I have cancer, heart disease or some other life ending ailment.  The next day make an appointment to see your doctor.
 

Ok. Now you are sitting in the Exam Room explaining this scenario to your doctor.  Based upon your previous experience, what’s the first thing your doctor would do?

  1. Order a battery of lab tests and schedule a follow up appointment
  2.  

  3. Put you in a patient gown and give you a thorough physical examination, including asking you detailed questions about your complaint, before ordering any tests.

If you answered A you have a lot of company.  A recent post on KevinMD.com by Robert Centor, MD reminded me of yet another disturbing trend in the doctor-patient interaction.  The post entitled “Many doctors order tests rather than do a history and physical ” talks about how physicians today rely more on technology for diagnosing patients than their own "hands on" diagnostic skills, e.g. a good patient history and physical exam.

Prior to the technology revolution in medicine over the last 20 years, physician training taught doctors how to diagnose patients using with a comprehensive history and physical exam.   More physicians today are practicing “test-centered medicine rather than patient-centered medicine.”   Medical schools focus on teaching doctors to “click as many buttons on the computer order set as we possibly can in order to cover every life-threatening diagnosis.”   The problem is that medicine is still an imperfect science and technology is not a good substitute for an experienced, hands-on diagnostician.

The result of this move to “test-centered” medicine include:  1) more unnecessary tests are ordered, 2) patients are exposed to unnecessary risks (radiation, anxiety, etc.) and 3) health care costs go up.

Get Your Physician To Listen Or….Find A Physician That Knows How To Listen

Sir William Osler (1849-1919), considered the “most influential physician in history,” believed that the best diagnosticians were those that listened to their patients.  The following quote attributed to Osler says it best – “Listen to the patient – he (or she) is telling you the diagnosis.”

So the next time you are sitting on the exam table provide a clear, before your doctor can interrupt you, present an organized history of your complaint.  Ask your doctor to examine you before referring you out for x-rays or lab tests. If you doctor can make the case for tests after your doctor has heard you out…fine.  This way you can be more likely of getting the correct diagnosis.

Sources:

The Fading Art Of The Physical Exam. R. Knox, NPR September 20, 2010.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=129931999#commentBlock

DeMaria, A. Wither the Cardiac Physical Examination? Journal of the American College of Cardiology. Vol. 48, No. 10, 2006.

What If All Chronically Ill Patients Were This Engaged In Their Health

This video is an excellent testimony of what a truly engaged and knowledgable  patient with chronic diabetes looks and sounds like.  Kudo’s to the Mayo Clinic for sharing this wonderful piece about Shared Decision Making.

Pay particular attention to the fact that the patient in the video was being treated for 8 years for her diabetes by her primary care physician before being referred to a clearly “patient centered” Endochronologist.   Also note her belief that a patient centered approach to chronic care management probably results in shorter, more productive visits in the long run.